1 00:00:07,829 --> 00:00:05,749 good morning i'm pat ryan with the 2 00:00:10,470 --> 00:00:07,839 public affairs office at nasa's johnson 3 00:00:13,270 --> 00:00:10,480 space center and we're happy to join you 4 00:00:15,430 --> 00:00:13,280 with me today is angela bauer she is the 5 00:00:17,109 --> 00:00:15,440 lead of the facilities operation 6 00:00:19,429 --> 00:00:17,119 maintenance group 7 00:00:21,670 --> 00:00:19,439 which is part of the mission operations 8 00:00:23,189 --> 00:00:21,680 directorate and they are the folks who 9 00:00:25,109 --> 00:00:23,199 are responsible for 10 00:00:26,870 --> 00:00:25,119 taking care of everything in these 11 00:00:28,790 --> 00:00:26,880 buildings that is 12 00:00:31,429 --> 00:00:28,800 there to help support the people who are 13 00:00:33,030 --> 00:00:31,439 supporting the folks who are on orbit 14 00:00:35,270 --> 00:00:33,040 which is sort of an inarticulate way of 15 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:35,280 describing what you do but tell us how 16 00:00:39,510 --> 00:00:37,280 you got to that point tell me about what 17 00:00:41,990 --> 00:00:39,520 kind of background does 18 00:00:44,709 --> 00:00:42,000 set somebody up to be in charge of 19 00:00:46,630 --> 00:00:44,719 maintaining this kind of environment 20 00:00:48,709 --> 00:00:46,640 well i actually uh graduated with a 21 00:00:50,229 --> 00:00:48,719 degree in mechanical engineering and 22 00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:50,239 after i graduated i went to work for a 23 00:00:53,990 --> 00:00:51,600 couple of years in the petrochemical 24 00:00:55,830 --> 00:00:54,000 industry but i was always so attracted 25 00:00:58,150 --> 00:00:55,840 to nasa and always looking for a way to 26 00:01:00,150 --> 00:00:58,160 get here and so i did finally find a way 27 00:01:02,389 --> 00:01:00,160 to come and work for nasa and i was 28 00:01:04,549 --> 00:01:02,399 lucky enough to be a shuttle electrical 29 00:01:06,630 --> 00:01:04,559 power systems flight controller so we 30 00:01:07,750 --> 00:01:06,640 controlled all the power systems on the 31 00:01:09,910 --> 00:01:07,760 shuttle 32 00:01:12,310 --> 00:01:09,920 but then after a couple of years i was 33 00:01:13,990 --> 00:01:12,320 given the opportunity to come over and 34 00:01:16,070 --> 00:01:14,000 manage a large project replacing 35 00:01:17,910 --> 00:01:16,080 workstations here in the control center 36 00:01:19,749 --> 00:01:17,920 and i jumped at that opportunity and 37 00:01:21,830 --> 00:01:19,759 i've been here ever since 38 00:01:23,510 --> 00:01:21,840 sounds very exciting we'll find out more 39 00:01:26,710 --> 00:01:23,520 about it and i think we're ready to take 40 00:01:29,429 --> 00:01:26,720 your questions so go ahead 41 00:01:31,030 --> 00:01:29,439 okay our first question says how much 42 00:01:32,390 --> 00:01:31,040 pressure is it to work in mission 43 00:01:34,550 --> 00:01:32,400 control 44 00:01:36,469 --> 00:01:34,560 angela how much pressure well it really 45 00:01:37,749 --> 00:01:36,479 depends on the moment 46 00:01:39,510 --> 00:01:37,759 most of the time working in mission 47 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:39,520 control is something that you've been 48 00:01:43,510 --> 00:01:42,000 very well trained to do and you sit at 49 00:01:45,670 --> 00:01:43,520 your console and you watch your data do 50 00:01:47,030 --> 00:01:45,680 very predictable things and you do 51 00:01:50,069 --> 00:01:47,040 procedures that you've trained on 52 00:01:51,670 --> 00:01:50,079 extensively and so it's all very easy 53 00:01:54,389 --> 00:01:51,680 the pressure comes when something goes 54 00:01:56,230 --> 00:01:54,399 wrong when something on board breaks and 55 00:01:58,709 --> 00:01:56,240 all of a sudden you have to jump in and 56 00:02:00,630 --> 00:01:58,719 you have to fix it and we train our 57 00:02:02,230 --> 00:02:00,640 flight controllers for that too we do 58 00:02:04,630 --> 00:02:02,240 extensive training we have a saying that 59 00:02:05,749 --> 00:02:04,640 we train like we fly and we fly like we 60 00:02:07,350 --> 00:02:05,759 train 61 00:02:08,949 --> 00:02:07,360 so we feel that our flight controllers 62 00:02:10,630 --> 00:02:08,959 are all very capable of handling all 63 00:02:13,910 --> 00:02:10,640 those but it does make for some exciting 64 00:02:18,229 --> 00:02:15,910 okay the next one says what is the 65 00:02:21,350 --> 00:02:18,239 average education of someone in mission 66 00:02:22,949 --> 00:02:21,360 control and an astronaut 67 00:02:24,470 --> 00:02:22,959 okay well it's different for flight 68 00:02:26,630 --> 00:02:24,480 controllers and mission control and 69 00:02:28,309 --> 00:02:26,640 astronauts not that it has to be 70 00:02:30,309 --> 00:02:28,319 to be a flight controller all you have 71 00:02:32,470 --> 00:02:30,319 to have is a science degree so that 72 00:02:34,150 --> 00:02:32,480 would be either science engineering or 73 00:02:35,509 --> 00:02:34,160 math and 74 00:02:37,670 --> 00:02:35,519 most of our flight controllers have 75 00:02:38,949 --> 00:02:37,680 bachelor degrees we do have some who 76 00:02:40,949 --> 00:02:38,959 have masters and we have some who have 77 00:02:42,150 --> 00:02:40,959 phds it really depends on the person and 78 00:02:43,430 --> 00:02:42,160 the choice that they made in their 79 00:02:44,630 --> 00:02:43,440 schooling but all that you're required 80 00:02:46,229 --> 00:02:44,640 to have is a bachelor's degree in 81 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:46,239 science and engineering 82 00:02:50,070 --> 00:02:48,239 most of the astronauts do have advanced 83 00:02:52,309 --> 00:02:50,080 degrees though of master's degrees and a 84 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:52,319 lot of them doctorates as well even the 85 00:02:57,430 --> 00:02:54,959 pilot astronauts who are in charge of 86 00:02:58,710 --> 00:02:57,440 driving the spacecraft if you will a lot 87 00:03:02,710 --> 00:02:58,720 of them have advanced degrees in 88 00:03:06,790 --> 00:03:04,790 okay the next one says what is the 89 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:06,800 additional training for someone working 90 00:03:10,790 --> 00:03:08,640 in mission control 91 00:03:12,790 --> 00:03:10,800 well when we bring our our 92 00:03:14,070 --> 00:03:12,800 new flight controllers in we actually 93 00:03:15,270 --> 00:03:14,080 have a 94 00:03:16,630 --> 00:03:15,280 set of classes that right now we're 95 00:03:18,550 --> 00:03:16,640 calling boot camp it's been called 96 00:03:20,229 --> 00:03:18,560 different names over the years where 97 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:20,239 they spend several months going through 98 00:03:23,030 --> 00:03:21,760 intensive training on all of the 99 00:03:25,190 --> 00:03:23,040 different systems that are on the 100 00:03:26,630 --> 00:03:25,200 international space station and then 101 00:03:28,789 --> 00:03:26,640 after they get through that then they 102 00:03:29,589 --> 00:03:28,799 get put into a training flow where we 103 00:03:31,430 --> 00:03:29,599 have 104 00:03:32,550 --> 00:03:31,440 smaller trainers that are not in this 105 00:03:34,390 --> 00:03:32,560 building they're over in another 106 00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:34,400 building where they can sit with just a 107 00:03:37,430 --> 00:03:36,159 couple of people and start to do 108 00:03:38,949 --> 00:03:37,440 troubleshooting on their systems and 109 00:03:41,110 --> 00:03:38,959 then finally after they've mastered some 110 00:03:43,110 --> 00:03:41,120 of those basics then they come over here 111 00:03:45,830 --> 00:03:43,120 and we do integrated simulations where 112 00:03:47,750 --> 00:03:45,840 we have the entire flight control room 113 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:47,760 participating we have computer models 114 00:03:51,750 --> 00:03:49,440 that pretend that they are the space 115 00:03:53,190 --> 00:03:51,760 station so we can mimic things and 116 00:03:55,750 --> 00:03:53,200 conditions on the space station and we 117 00:03:57,509 --> 00:03:55,760 have a whole group of instructors where 118 00:03:59,350 --> 00:03:57,519 their whole job all they've been trained 119 00:04:02,550 --> 00:03:59,360 to do is to teach our flight controllers 120 00:04:06,869 --> 00:04:05,190 um if our space shuttle program is not 121 00:04:09,110 --> 00:04:06,879 operating how do we plan on getting 122 00:04:10,789 --> 00:04:09,120 astronauts to the iss 123 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:10,799 well you know we actually knew for for 124 00:04:14,470 --> 00:04:12,400 quite a few years that the space station 125 00:04:17,189 --> 00:04:14,480 program was ending or the space shuttle 126 00:04:19,110 --> 00:04:17,199 program was ending and so we had a long 127 00:04:21,509 --> 00:04:19,120 long time to plan for it so what we do 128 00:04:23,830 --> 00:04:21,519 right now is that we have the russians 129 00:04:25,590 --> 00:04:23,840 send up our astronauts in their soyuz 130 00:04:27,590 --> 00:04:25,600 spacecraft and so that's been well 131 00:04:30,950 --> 00:04:27,600 negotiated and they change out their 132 00:04:35,590 --> 00:04:33,189 how much oxygen do they know to bring 133 00:04:36,870 --> 00:04:35,600 and have on the iss 134 00:04:38,950 --> 00:04:36,880 well since we've been doing spaceflight 135 00:04:42,469 --> 00:04:38,960 for a long time we know how much oxygen 136 00:04:44,070 --> 00:04:42,479 a typical person needs in a day and so i 137 00:04:46,150 --> 00:04:44,080 can say for space shuttle we actually 138 00:04:47,670 --> 00:04:46,160 had to take all of our oxygen and so we 139 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:47,680 took it in big tanks but for space 140 00:04:50,710 --> 00:04:49,199 station they're up there for such a long 141 00:04:53,189 --> 00:04:50,720 time that we have many different ways of 142 00:04:54,790 --> 00:04:53,199 getting them oxygen so we have some 143 00:04:57,189 --> 00:04:54,800 equipment on board that can turn water 144 00:04:58,629 --> 00:04:57,199 into oxygen we have equipment that when 145 00:05:00,550 --> 00:04:58,639 activated 146 00:05:02,870 --> 00:05:00,560 it's basically like a candle that has a 147 00:05:04,790 --> 00:05:02,880 chemical reaction and releases oxygen 148 00:05:07,670 --> 00:05:04,800 and we also can send oxygen up in some 149 00:05:10,790 --> 00:05:07,680 of our resupply vehicles 150 00:05:13,430 --> 00:05:10,800 how long does it take to get to the iss 151 00:05:15,670 --> 00:05:13,440 well that also depends on the vehicle 152 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:15,680 technically it doesn't take that long to 153 00:05:19,430 --> 00:05:17,440 get there coming back it takes about two 154 00:05:21,510 --> 00:05:19,440 hours but going there it takes a lot 155 00:05:22,870 --> 00:05:21,520 longer first of all because we have to 156 00:05:24,390 --> 00:05:22,880 launch it takes you about eight minutes 157 00:05:26,310 --> 00:05:24,400 to get to orbit but then we have to 158 00:05:27,510 --> 00:05:26,320 catch up with the space station 159 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:27,520 you also have to make sure that your 160 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:29,199 vehicle is correctly oriented and you 161 00:05:33,430 --> 00:05:31,120 have to make sure that your crew has 162 00:05:35,430 --> 00:05:33,440 acclimated to to space travel so that 163 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:35,440 they're able to do the docking so 164 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:37,280 normally for us it takes us between 165 00:05:40,310 --> 00:05:38,800 three and four days 166 00:05:42,550 --> 00:05:40,320 the europeans sometimes take a little 167 00:05:45,270 --> 00:05:42,560 bit longer so it just depends on the 168 00:05:46,390 --> 00:05:45,280 flight control team and the astronauts 169 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:46,400 and 170 00:05:50,629 --> 00:05:48,400 which company which country is operating 171 00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:50,639 the vehicle 172 00:05:55,110 --> 00:05:52,800 do you see robotics as an important part 173 00:05:57,590 --> 00:05:55,120 of the future of space travel 174 00:05:59,749 --> 00:05:57,600 robotics is very important we can send 175 00:06:01,189 --> 00:05:59,759 robots to do things that we wouldn't 176 00:06:02,950 --> 00:06:01,199 want to send humans to do or that we 177 00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:02,960 don't have enough humans to do 178 00:06:07,590 --> 00:06:05,520 so we already use many robots in space 179 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:07,600 travel we have a robotic arm on the 180 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:08,880 space station 181 00:06:12,629 --> 00:06:10,720 we also have dexter which is on the 182 00:06:13,430 --> 00:06:12,639 space station that can do tasks 183 00:06:15,110 --> 00:06:13,440 and 184 00:06:16,950 --> 00:06:15,120 in addition to that we also have things 185 00:06:18,710 --> 00:06:16,960 like our mars rovers that are robots 186 00:06:20,950 --> 00:06:18,720 that we operate so robotics is very 187 00:06:23,189 --> 00:06:20,960 important 188 00:06:24,550 --> 00:06:23,199 discuss the funding for future space 189 00:06:27,029 --> 00:06:24,560 flight do you think it will be more 190 00:06:28,790 --> 00:06:27,039 commercialized 191 00:06:29,990 --> 00:06:28,800 well okay that's two questions first for 192 00:06:31,990 --> 00:06:30,000 the funding 193 00:06:33,749 --> 00:06:32,000 you know we are a government agency and 194 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:33,759 so our funding depends on whatever 195 00:06:36,790 --> 00:06:35,520 congress has money to do and how they 196 00:06:38,150 --> 00:06:36,800 allocate it so 197 00:06:39,510 --> 00:06:38,160 we only know our funding from year to 198 00:06:41,990 --> 00:06:39,520 year and we always hope that they'll 199 00:06:44,150 --> 00:06:42,000 give us more but we won't know um 200 00:06:46,070 --> 00:06:44,160 for commercialization we are actively 201 00:06:48,629 --> 00:06:46,080 striving to increase the commercial 202 00:06:50,309 --> 00:06:48,639 participation in space flight in fact 203 00:06:51,909 --> 00:06:50,319 we're using some of the money that we 204 00:06:54,390 --> 00:06:51,919 have in order to 205 00:06:56,550 --> 00:06:54,400 provide seed money for private companies 206 00:06:58,469 --> 00:06:56,560 that are currently working on developing 207 00:07:00,550 --> 00:06:58,479 both cargo ships to help supply the 208 00:07:02,309 --> 00:07:00,560 space station and some of them are also 209 00:07:04,710 --> 00:07:02,319 working on future vehicles to bring 210 00:07:06,710 --> 00:07:04,720 crews to the space station and maybe to 211 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:06,720 other destinations as well so nasa is 212 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:08,800 investing in that in that as a way to 213 00:07:17,589 --> 00:07:14,870 could you describe the orion 214 00:07:19,350 --> 00:07:17,599 multi-purpose vehicle 215 00:07:21,350 --> 00:07:19,360 could i describe it 216 00:07:23,909 --> 00:07:21,360 well you know we're getting away from 217 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:23,919 having the the space shuttle type of 218 00:07:27,909 --> 00:07:25,680 vehicle the space shuttle wallet it's 219 00:07:30,710 --> 00:07:27,919 really cool and very flexible that it 220 00:07:32,710 --> 00:07:30,720 can go up and down many times is also 221 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:32,720 very very expensive to maintain and 222 00:07:38,469 --> 00:07:36,240 operate and so the orion capsule is more 223 00:07:40,150 --> 00:07:38,479 like what we had back in the apollo days 224 00:07:42,390 --> 00:07:40,160 so it's a 225 00:07:43,909 --> 00:07:42,400 smaller capsule that is easier to launch 226 00:07:45,589 --> 00:07:43,919 and it enters just like the apollo 227 00:07:47,749 --> 00:07:45,599 capsule did 228 00:07:50,309 --> 00:07:47,759 although the it's bigger than the apollo 229 00:07:52,629 --> 00:07:50,319 capsule and it will be able to carry uh 230 00:07:54,790 --> 00:07:52,639 four or six astronauts where the apollo 231 00:07:56,790 --> 00:07:54,800 could only carry three and it's being 232 00:08:08,309 --> 00:07:56,800 designed to be able to go a lot farther 233 00:08:12,790 --> 00:08:11,110 hold on just a second 234 00:08:16,150 --> 00:08:12,800 are there any questions that you guys 235 00:08:18,469 --> 00:08:16,160 have that we haven't asked already 236 00:08:20,869 --> 00:08:18,479 if you have a question come on up and 237 00:08:23,670 --> 00:08:20,879 just stand over here 238 00:08:25,430 --> 00:08:23,680 please feel free 239 00:08:27,430 --> 00:08:25,440 this is your chance to talk to mission 240 00:08:29,350 --> 00:08:27,440 control this might be a once in a 241 00:08:30,629 --> 00:08:29,360 lifetime thing so please think if you 242 00:08:32,310 --> 00:08:30,639 have a question 243 00:08:33,990 --> 00:08:32,320 is there any possibility of speaking 244 00:08:36,310 --> 00:08:34,000 microphones 245 00:08:38,149 --> 00:08:36,320 uh is there any possibility of getting 246 00:08:39,990 --> 00:08:38,159 to mars soon 247 00:08:42,389 --> 00:08:40,000 or in the future well that depends on 248 00:08:43,909 --> 00:08:42,399 your definition of soon um 249 00:08:46,389 --> 00:08:43,919 i definitely think we'll get tomorrow 250 00:08:48,550 --> 00:08:46,399 sometime in your lifetime um it's not 251 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:48,560 going to be this decade right now we 252 00:08:51,990 --> 00:08:50,880 have got plans for the orion capsule to 253 00:08:54,389 --> 00:08:52,000 launch and they're they're looking at 254 00:08:55,990 --> 00:08:54,399 going to an asteroid first and then 255 00:08:58,470 --> 00:08:56,000 perhaps to mars probably somewhere out 256 00:09:00,230 --> 00:08:58,480 in 2013 would be or 2030 would be the 257 00:09:01,590 --> 00:09:00,240 earliest but i think it's definitely 258 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:01,600 going to happen there are a lot of 259 00:09:07,590 --> 00:09:05,040 people who are working on developing on 260 00:09:10,150 --> 00:09:07,600 working out the issues with propulsion 261 00:09:12,150 --> 00:09:10,160 that are necessary in order to get a 262 00:09:13,910 --> 00:09:12,160 spaceship that far away they're also 263 00:09:16,790 --> 00:09:13,920 working up on the issues that are 264 00:09:18,870 --> 00:09:16,800 required to be able to sustain a crew i 265 00:09:21,670 --> 00:09:18,880 mean we could shoot a rocket to mars we 266 00:09:23,590 --> 00:09:21,680 do it all we do it now but we want to be 267 00:09:26,230 --> 00:09:23,600 able to have the crew members who are on 268 00:09:27,829 --> 00:09:26,240 board be able to be safe and to be 269 00:09:29,829 --> 00:09:27,839 healthy when they get there because it's 270 00:09:31,269 --> 00:09:29,839 about a six-month trip to get there and 271 00:09:33,509 --> 00:09:31,279 then there's the amount of time that you 272 00:09:35,670 --> 00:09:33,519 would be there to do the work to do the 273 00:09:38,310 --> 00:09:35,680 exploration and then another six months 274 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:38,320 to come back so there are are mechanical 275 00:09:42,230 --> 00:09:40,480 issues and there are also human issues 276 00:09:44,630 --> 00:09:42,240 that still have to be worked out before 277 00:09:50,710 --> 00:09:44,640 we could do it in with a relative degree 278 00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:51,829 what kind of 279 00:09:56,790 --> 00:09:53,600 problems do you face 280 00:09:58,470 --> 00:09:56,800 normally when they're launching 281 00:10:00,389 --> 00:09:58,480 if there are any 282 00:10:01,750 --> 00:10:00,399 are there any problems in launching 283 00:10:03,829 --> 00:10:01,760 there are occasionally problems in 284 00:10:05,910 --> 00:10:03,839 launching 285 00:10:08,550 --> 00:10:05,920 right now all of our launches are done 286 00:10:09,910 --> 00:10:08,560 by the russians and so they control all 287 00:10:11,190 --> 00:10:09,920 of that so i can tell you a little bit 288 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:11,200 about some of the problems that we would 289 00:10:14,870 --> 00:10:12,560 have during the space shuttle when we 290 00:10:16,870 --> 00:10:14,880 were in control of that launch um and 291 00:10:19,190 --> 00:10:16,880 actually problems were very rare we we 292 00:10:20,949 --> 00:10:19,200 do so much testing that 293 00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:20,959 it's uncommon 294 00:10:23,590 --> 00:10:22,240 most likely 295 00:10:25,030 --> 00:10:23,600 probably if we looked at what the most 296 00:10:27,030 --> 00:10:25,040 common failure would be it would be that 297 00:10:28,870 --> 00:10:27,040 we lost a piece of telemetry not that 298 00:10:30,870 --> 00:10:28,880 something actually happened on board but 299 00:10:32,550 --> 00:10:30,880 for some reason that transducer stopped 300 00:10:34,230 --> 00:10:32,560 working and by telemetry we're talking 301 00:10:36,150 --> 00:10:34,240 about information data that's coming 302 00:10:37,750 --> 00:10:36,160 down right a number that tells us how 303 00:10:39,750 --> 00:10:37,760 many volts a certain piece of equipment 304 00:10:46,310 --> 00:10:39,760 has or how fast a certain piece of 305 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:48,870 so since uh rocking is basically a 306 00:10:54,069 --> 00:10:51,360 controlled explosion is there any chance 307 00:10:57,430 --> 00:10:54,079 of using a nuclear blast to 308 00:10:58,949 --> 00:10:57,440 go into deep space in the future 309 00:11:01,110 --> 00:10:58,959 well we're always looking at advanced 310 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:01,120 proposal propulsion i haven't heard 311 00:11:06,150 --> 00:11:04,240 anything about using a nuclear blast 312 00:11:08,949 --> 00:11:06,160 to get into space actually most of our 313 00:11:11,269 --> 00:11:08,959 efforts right now are looking at 314 00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:11,279 using 315 00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:13,680 rockets that have less energy but end up 316 00:11:18,230 --> 00:11:16,800 spitting it out at a longer time so that 317 00:11:21,430 --> 00:11:18,240 you would be able to go a farther 318 00:11:23,990 --> 00:11:21,440 distance with less fuel there's a former 319 00:11:26,389 --> 00:11:24,000 nasa astronaut named franklin chang diaz 320 00:11:28,389 --> 00:11:26,399 who is really in the lead in developing 321 00:11:30,550 --> 00:11:28,399 this kind of engine where you would 322 00:11:32,870 --> 00:11:30,560 carry enough fuel to be able to make a 323 00:11:36,230 --> 00:11:32,880 just a little thrust that would push 324 00:11:39,829 --> 00:11:36,240 your vehicle along and on a 325 00:11:41,990 --> 00:11:39,839 on a regular basis but because in orbit 326 00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:42,000 and out beyond earth orbit you don't 327 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:44,560 have the resistance you don't need very 328 00:11:49,590 --> 00:11:47,440 much push in order to get it going and 329 00:11:53,030 --> 00:11:49,600 you continue to build up the momentum 330 00:11:55,030 --> 00:11:53,040 with every new impulse and you can go a 331 00:12:06,230 --> 00:11:55,040 great distance in a relatively short 332 00:12:11,829 --> 00:12:08,470 how do you choose the astronauts that go 333 00:12:13,590 --> 00:12:11,839 up to the space stations 334 00:12:15,670 --> 00:12:13,600 and that's really a question for the 335 00:12:18,069 --> 00:12:15,680 astronaut office 336 00:12:19,430 --> 00:12:18,079 i know that they do a lot of screening 337 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:19,440 on their astronauts when they pick them 338 00:12:22,550 --> 00:12:20,880 to be candidates in the first place and 339 00:12:23,990 --> 00:12:22,560 then astronauts go through about two 340 00:12:25,990 --> 00:12:24,000 years of training once they get selected 341 00:12:27,509 --> 00:12:26,000 so they go through one year where they 342 00:12:28,949 --> 00:12:27,519 do astronaut candidate training which is 343 00:12:31,110 --> 00:12:28,959 kind of generic training and then they 344 00:12:33,030 --> 00:12:31,120 do about another year of 345 00:12:35,269 --> 00:12:33,040 vehicle specific and mission specific 346 00:12:36,550 --> 00:12:35,279 training and so i would imagine that 347 00:12:38,069 --> 00:12:36,560 their choice of who they're going to 348 00:12:46,150 --> 00:12:38,079 pick depends on how well those 349 00:12:51,269 --> 00:12:48,069 do you ever think we'll like officially 350 00:12:55,190 --> 00:12:53,030 personally i do think that we will live 351 00:12:57,670 --> 00:12:55,200 in space um 352 00:12:59,910 --> 00:12:57,680 nasa is always trying to put ourselves 353 00:13:01,590 --> 00:12:59,920 at the front of the space technology 354 00:13:04,389 --> 00:13:01,600 we're trying to do the new things that 355 00:13:06,550 --> 00:13:04,399 nobody else has done before and as we 356 00:13:08,389 --> 00:13:06,560 figure out more more ways to travel in 357 00:13:10,629 --> 00:13:08,399 space then we end up giving that 358 00:13:12,790 --> 00:13:10,639 information over to other people such as 359 00:13:15,430 --> 00:13:12,800 commercial partners so that they can 360 00:13:17,190 --> 00:13:15,440 then use that information to make a 361 00:13:20,230 --> 00:13:17,200 commercial venture a company that can 362 00:13:21,829 --> 00:13:20,240 then capitalize on that and make space 363 00:13:23,910 --> 00:13:21,839 travel accessible for 364 00:13:26,310 --> 00:13:23,920 for all people so i do believe that 365 00:13:27,590 --> 00:13:26,320 we'll get technology to the point that 366 00:13:29,829 --> 00:13:27,600 we can give it over to commercial 367 00:13:32,069 --> 00:13:29,839 partners and they can make space tourism 368 00:13:33,590 --> 00:13:32,079 a real option and in the meantime you 369 00:13:35,990 --> 00:13:33,600 know there are people living in space 370 00:13:38,230 --> 00:13:36,000 right now there are six people on board 371 00:13:40,550 --> 00:13:38,240 the international space station uh three 372 00:13:42,790 --> 00:13:40,560 of them have been living there since 373 00:13:45,350 --> 00:13:42,800 late november the other three actually 374 00:13:47,750 --> 00:13:45,360 today is the 100th day that the other 375 00:13:50,069 --> 00:13:47,760 three have been in space 376 00:13:53,829 --> 00:13:50,079 there is one russian cosmonaut who lived 377 00:13:56,069 --> 00:13:53,839 in space for over 430 days without 378 00:13:57,829 --> 00:13:56,079 coming back to the earth so we are 379 00:13:59,990 --> 00:13:57,839 living there now we're not living there 380 00:14:03,269 --> 00:14:00,000 for as long as we will in the future 381 00:14:06,949 --> 00:14:05,030 is there any possibility of going back 382 00:14:08,310 --> 00:14:06,959 to the moon 383 00:14:10,150 --> 00:14:08,320 well there's always a possibility of 384 00:14:12,389 --> 00:14:10,160 going back to the moon 385 00:14:14,470 --> 00:14:12,399 when the president made the decision to 386 00:14:16,389 --> 00:14:14,480 refocus the constellation efforts we 387 00:14:18,629 --> 00:14:16,399 decided that we were going to instead 388 00:14:21,189 --> 00:14:18,639 focus on going out to an asteroid and 389 00:14:23,430 --> 00:14:21,199 then to mars so we don't have any plans 390 00:14:25,350 --> 00:14:23,440 to send people to the moon right now 391 00:14:26,949 --> 00:14:25,360 we're always looking at what kind of 392 00:14:28,949 --> 00:14:26,959 rovers and robotics we could do at the 393 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:28,959 moon and actually one of the 394 00:14:32,550 --> 00:14:30,480 the activities that's operated out of 395 00:14:35,670 --> 00:14:32,560 this building is a program called desert 396 00:14:37,030 --> 00:14:35,680 rats where we do a simulation of what it 397 00:14:39,829 --> 00:14:37,040 would be like on the moon that go out to 398 00:14:42,949 --> 00:14:39,839 the desert in arizona and they uh 399 00:14:44,710 --> 00:14:42,959 test spacesuits and and rovers to see 400 00:14:48,230 --> 00:14:44,720 how they work so we're constantly 401 00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:48,240 striving for that and nasa has a pair of 402 00:14:52,949 --> 00:14:50,399 of spacecraft orbiting the moon right 403 00:14:55,670 --> 00:14:52,959 now the the grail mission uh just sent 404 00:14:58,310 --> 00:14:55,680 two spacecraft that are mapping uh moon 405 00:15:00,550 --> 00:14:58,320 so we have we haven't send people back 406 00:15:02,629 --> 00:15:00,560 just yet but uh we are still going to 407 00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:02,639 the moon 408 00:15:05,829 --> 00:15:03,600 okay 409 00:15:08,150 --> 00:15:05,839 are you looking into fusion reaction for 410 00:15:09,829 --> 00:15:08,160 energy 411 00:15:12,310 --> 00:15:09,839 fusion reaction 412 00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:12,320 are we looking into that for energy not 413 00:15:16,470 --> 00:15:14,160 that i well i'm not sure i don't know 414 00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:16,480 that nasa is yeah there are people who 415 00:15:21,269 --> 00:15:18,880 are but that's that seems to be still 416 00:15:22,870 --> 00:15:21,279 quite a bit of ways away i know in 417 00:15:24,389 --> 00:15:22,880 mission control we're not focusing on it 418 00:15:28,389 --> 00:15:24,399 right now that's not in one of your 419 00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:30,949 when apollo 13 claimed the moon for the 420 00:15:35,110 --> 00:15:32,160 usa 421 00:15:37,030 --> 00:15:35,120 uh is it possible that other countries 422 00:15:38,310 --> 00:15:37,040 that we will be sharing the moon with 423 00:15:40,629 --> 00:15:38,320 other countries 424 00:15:42,389 --> 00:15:40,639 i think that's entirely possible you for 425 00:15:44,949 --> 00:15:42,399 for us the moon was our goal back in the 426 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:44,959 60s and we achieved it and i see no 427 00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:46,800 reason why other countries wouldn't want 428 00:15:50,629 --> 00:15:48,639 to have that same goal and achieve it 429 00:15:52,310 --> 00:15:50,639 just like we did yeah when when apollo 430 00:15:54,310 --> 00:15:52,320 11 was the first 431 00:15:55,910 --> 00:15:54,320 mission to land on the moon and and they 432 00:15:58,629 --> 00:15:55,920 planted an american flag but they didn't 433 00:16:00,470 --> 00:15:58,639 really claim it for america and uh 434 00:16:02,550 --> 00:16:00,480 you're remembering apollo 13 that was 435 00:16:11,590 --> 00:16:02,560 the mission that uh circled the moon but 436 00:16:15,030 --> 00:16:13,189 how many missions have you helped get 437 00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:15,040 into space 438 00:16:21,509 --> 00:16:19,440 we had 130 135 space shuttle missions 439 00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:21,519 that that flew right then we also had 440 00:16:26,389 --> 00:16:23,680 all of the apollo missions and all the 441 00:16:28,790 --> 00:16:26,399 gemini and mercury missions uh as well 442 00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:28,800 as all of the launches to the 443 00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:30,240 international space station the group 444 00:16:34,150 --> 00:16:32,160 that's on board right now is expedition 445 00:16:37,350 --> 00:16:34,160 number 30 446 00:16:39,910 --> 00:16:37,360 and there are crews uh 447 00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:39,920 who aren't even gonna launch for another 448 00:16:48,550 --> 00:16:41,680 two and a half years who are already 449 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:53,110 are there any other questions 450 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,389 come on gabby 451 00:16:59,509 --> 00:16:58,150 do you remember how many space shuttle 452 00:17:01,509 --> 00:16:59,519 missions you worked how many of those 453 00:17:02,829 --> 00:17:01,519 did you help put into space you know i 454 00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:02,839 didn't 455 00:17:11,510 --> 00:17:06,319 count a dozen or so probably yeah it was 456 00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:12,549 okay 457 00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:14,160 what kind of problems 458 00:17:17,990 --> 00:17:15,919 are not problems like what kind of 459 00:17:20,230 --> 00:17:18,000 things do you have to do to prepare to 460 00:17:22,630 --> 00:17:20,240 go up into space 461 00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:22,640 you mean if you're an astronaut 462 00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:25,280 no like for your mission control 463 00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:27,280 well okay so we start our flight 464 00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:29,200 controllers out with generic training 465 00:17:33,430 --> 00:17:30,320 where they 466 00:17:35,669 --> 00:17:33,440 do training on basic simulations and 467 00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:35,679 basic procedures that we go through and 468 00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:37,679 then about six months out we start with 469 00:17:42,070 --> 00:17:39,600 what we call flight specific training 470 00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:42,080 where we actually rehearse every single 471 00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:43,919 major activity that's going to happen on 472 00:17:49,029 --> 00:17:46,400 orbit and so we probably have about 473 00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:49,039 15 to 20 of those type of activities 474 00:17:51,990 --> 00:17:50,400 that involve the entire flight control 475 00:17:53,669 --> 00:17:52,000 team and 476 00:18:01,990 --> 00:17:53,679 they increase in frequency as we get 477 00:18:07,909 --> 00:18:04,310 how many rockets have blown up during 478 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:09,029 well okay so if you're going to talk 479 00:18:14,150 --> 00:18:12,000 about manned space flight i only know of 480 00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:14,160 one that's blown up and that was 481 00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:15,600 challenger 482 00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:17,600 we we had another accident with an 483 00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:20,160 apollo rocket but that didn't blow up 484 00:18:23,830 --> 00:18:22,000 it was on the pad and if you're talking 485 00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:23,840 about the other rocket rockets that get 486 00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:26,160 sent up most of those are handled by 487 00:18:30,789 --> 00:18:28,720 the department of defense or through 488 00:18:33,190 --> 00:18:30,799 another company which is united launch 489 00:18:34,789 --> 00:18:33,200 alliance which is a combination of 490 00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:34,799 lockheed martin 491 00:18:38,230 --> 00:18:36,720 and boeing and so i don't know how many 492 00:18:39,669 --> 00:18:38,240 they've had blow up but they're the ones 493 00:18:45,190 --> 00:18:39,679 who do most of the actual rocket 494 00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:47,990 what is nasa's ultimate goal 495 00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:51,120 as far as space travel 496 00:18:55,830 --> 00:18:53,520 well nasa is always trying to explore so 497 00:18:58,230 --> 00:18:55,840 our goal is to get as far away from this 498 00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:58,240 planet as possible and to do so in a 499 00:19:03,029 --> 00:19:00,320 safe manner so we're constantly striving 500 00:19:05,430 --> 00:19:03,039 to do new science that lets us figure 501 00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:05,440 out exactly how people are going to be 502 00:19:09,750 --> 00:19:07,919 affected by long time long term space 503 00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:09,760 travel how equipment's going to be 504 00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:10,880 affected 505 00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:12,880 more effective ways to do things so that 506 00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:15,120 we can get to farther places with less 507 00:19:18,070 --> 00:19:16,400 mass 508 00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:18,080 less energy 509 00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:20,000 so i think nasa 510 00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:21,520 long term is going to try and go as far 511 00:19:26,549 --> 00:19:22,960 as they can right now they've set their 512 00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:28,710 how does nasa work with department of 513 00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:30,160 defense 514 00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:31,200 you know we actually have some 515 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:33,200 department of defense folks who are on 516 00:19:35,590 --> 00:19:34,320 site with us 517 00:19:37,830 --> 00:19:35,600 we used to do a lot more with them 518 00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:37,840 because back in the 519 00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:39,840 middle days of shuttle there were actual 520 00:19:43,909 --> 00:19:41,919 department of defense missions and so we 521 00:19:46,549 --> 00:19:43,919 had one of the flight control rooms was 522 00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:46,559 actually locked down and was very secret 523 00:19:49,590 --> 00:19:48,000 because it had department of defense 524 00:19:51,430 --> 00:19:49,600 assets in it 525 00:19:54,549 --> 00:19:51,440 these days we do interface with them 526 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:54,559 some but most of our involvement is with 527 00:20:00,230 --> 00:19:57,039 either universities or 528 00:20:02,470 --> 00:20:00,240 commercial companies that have payloads 529 00:20:04,149 --> 00:20:02,480 but there are people from 530 00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:04,159 branches several branches of the service 531 00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:06,799 who work here in a variety of places not 532 00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:08,400 only astronauts 533 00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:10,000 but there are other people who are 534 00:20:14,870 --> 00:20:12,640 assigned by the army or the navy to come 535 00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:14,880 to nasa to work in flight control 536 00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:17,440 positions and in other places around 537 00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:23,590 do you have a question 538 00:20:28,149 --> 00:20:25,840 what's the furthest a robotic spacecraft 539 00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:28,159 has gotten away from the earth 540 00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:30,559 just left the solar system 541 00:20:33,909 --> 00:20:32,400 yeah the voyager 542 00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:33,919 i'm not sure if that's the farthest 543 00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:36,000 we've gone or the furthest whichever is 544 00:20:39,909 --> 00:20:36,960 correct 545 00:20:42,149 --> 00:20:39,919 but uh early uh robotic spacecraft that 546 00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:42,159 were launched back in the 60s have have 547 00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:50,149 what is your favorite part about working 548 00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:55,750 that's a hard question because honestly 549 00:20:59,190 --> 00:20:57,360 i love everything um 550 00:21:01,270 --> 00:20:59,200 probably my favorite thing to do here at 551 00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:01,280 nasa is to do events like this and take 552 00:21:05,110 --> 00:21:02,960 people on tours because when you're 553 00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:05,120 doing your job even though it's space it 554 00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:07,200 tends to still be processing paperwork 555 00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:08,400 to get monitors replaced and 556 00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:10,880 workstations replaced and update code 557 00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:12,400 and when you get an opportunity to do 558 00:21:15,029 --> 00:21:13,679 something like this or to bring people 559 00:21:16,630 --> 00:21:15,039 through mission control it reminds you 560 00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:16,640 how cool it really is yeah working 561 00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:18,320 working in this room is pretty cool 562 00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:20,240 getting to sit at one of these consoles 563 00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:22,559 and listen to all of these people talk 564 00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:24,400 about what's going on in the space 565 00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:26,720 station and and how we're making sure 566 00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:28,240 that we stay on the plan for what we 567 00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:30,240 want to do or how we're going to try to 568 00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:32,960 resolve some issue that's come up and 569 00:21:41,110 --> 00:21:34,960 and being right here in the middle of it 570 00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:42,390 um 571 00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:44,640 do you use guys like still send animals 572 00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:49,830 you know i think there have been some 573 00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:51,679 payloads recently that were sent up that 574 00:21:55,029 --> 00:21:53,600 did involve rats i know when i was 575 00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:55,039 working as a shuttle flight controller 576 00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:56,400 we had to account for the amount of 577 00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:58,640 oxygen the rats would consume 578 00:22:03,669 --> 00:22:01,440 but we haven't sent 579 00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:03,679 primates up in many many years we did 580 00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:04,799 that in the beginning because we weren't 581 00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:06,320 sure what the effects would be of human 582 00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:07,919 space flight on humans and so we wanted 583 00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:09,520 to be very cautious but 584 00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:10,960 these days the only animals that go up 585 00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:12,400 are going to be part of us in an 586 00:22:21,029 --> 00:22:18,950 what happens when an astronaut gets sick 587 00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:21,039 up in space 588 00:22:25,830 --> 00:22:23,440 well we actually have a whole team down 589 00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:25,840 here called the flight surgeons who take 590 00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:28,320 care of astronaut health and they carry 591 00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:30,240 a lot of medicine with them up in space 592 00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:32,240 and we have a capability for them to do 593 00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:34,240 private medical conferences where they 594 00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:36,480 can call down and talk to or have a 595 00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:38,640 video teleconference with the flight 596 00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:40,400 surgeons to discuss whatever ailment 597 00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:41,679 that they have 598 00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:44,240 our astronauts are also trained in many 599 00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:46,000 of the standard medical procedures that 600 00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:47,919 you would expect from say an ambulance 601 00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:49,919 crew so if something critical were to 602 00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:51,520 happen then they have the capability of 603 00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:52,880 responding to it as long as it's 604 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:02,310 i heard somewhere that like 605 00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:05,360 astronauts can like swell up in space 606 00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:07,280 how does that happen 607 00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:09,840 well in space there's no gravity so on 608 00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:11,840 the earth all of your fluids are pulled 609 00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:13,280 constantly towards your feet and your 610 00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:15,200 body does account for that in some ways 611 00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:16,720 i mean by the end of the day you are 612 00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:17,840 going to have more fluid at your feet 613 00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:19,679 than your head but overall it stays 614 00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:21,360 pretty constant but when you're in space 615 00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:23,280 there's no gravity so the fluid just 616 00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:24,880 accumulates in your body and it's not 617 00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:26,960 pulled down towards your feet so they do 618 00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:29,200 tend to have puffier faces when they are 619 00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:30,640 in orbit but it changes when they get 620 00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:34,870 is there any other questions that we 621 00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:40,549 i think you've got you've asked some 622 00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:46,549 all right wonderful dowell middle school 623 00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:48,720 this is uh michael harrigan from the 624 00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:51,039 digital learning network um did you want 625 00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:53,600 to say a final goodbye thank you to uh 626 00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:56,240 pat ryan and angela bauer for all their 627 00:24:05,269 --> 00:23:57,520 great answers 628 00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:07,430 goodbye hey it was great to talk to you